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  • Place to discuss the work of Ray Peat, Otto Warburg, Albert Szent-Györgyi and the interdependence of energy and structure

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    LucHL
    Deiodinase enzyme roles The thyroid's key roles In situations of stress or prolonged insult (whether physical, mental, or environmental), the body seeks to reduce the energy expenditure associated with maintenance in order to focus on cellular survival (species protection). This braking mechanism is activated at the level of peripheral conversion through an enzymatic shift between the deiodinase enzymes DIO2/D2 (activation) and D3 (inactivation). [1] https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3670672/ D3 does not merely serve an inactivating function. It acts as a modulator by adding or removing an iodine atom from an enzyme, depending on whether activation (T4 to T3) or inactivation is required. And I assume D2 is not always inert, either. D1 (Type 1 deiodinase). D1 is the only "mixed" enzyme capable of cleaving either the inner or the outer ring, thereby activating or inactivating the hormone depending on the metabolic context. Roles of deiodinases Deiodinases are enzymes that control energy metabolism by activating or inactivating thyroid hormones at the tissue level, directly determining the local availability of the biologically active hormone T3. What Are Deiodinases? Deiodinases are a family of three enzymes (D1, D2, and D3) containing selenocysteine that remove iodine atoms from thyroid hormones: [1] NB: D1 = DIO1 = Deiodinase-1 = desodinase-1. • Type 1 (D1): double function (add or remove a ring) D1 converts inactive T4 (thyroxine) into active T3, and clears reverse T3 (rT3) from the blood. Found mostly in the liver, kidneys, and thyroid. [1, 2, 3, 4] • Type 2 (D2): remove a ring (T4 => T3) D2 exclusively activates T4 into T3 inside specific tissues, providing local intracellular T3 surges. Found in brown adipose tissue (BAT), skeletal muscle, brain, and pituitary gland. [1, 2, 3] • Type 3 (D3): Inactivates both T4 and T3 by converting them into inactive metabolites (like rT3). Acts as a physiological brake on thyroid signaling. [1, 2, 3] Role in Energy Metabolism Deiodinases customize energy expenditure and metabolic rate independently of baseline circulating hormone levels: [1, 2, 3, 4] • Thermogenesis (Heat Production): In brown adipose tissue, D2 activates T4 to T3 locally. This T3 binds to nuclear receptors to trigger mitochondrial uncoupling proteins (like UCP1) and PGC1α, ramping up calorie burning to generate heat. [1, 2] • Energy Expenditure: High D2 activity in tissues like skeletal muscle and fat accelerates cellular respiration and energy usage. [1, 2] • Metabolic Adaptation: During fasting or calorie restriction, D2 and D1 activity often drop while D3 rises, lowering active T3 levels to conserve energy and slow down the metabolic rate. Nutrient excess has the opposite effect, boosting activation. [1] Impact on T3 Levels • Local vs. Systemic T3: More than 80% of intracellular T3 does not come directly from the thyroid gland, but is generated locally inside tissues via D1 and D2 acting on circulating T4. [1] • Tissue-Specific Control: Even if blood levels of T3 look normal, local changes in D2 or D3 expression can create high-T3 or low-T3 environments inside individual organs (like the liver or muscle), dictating how fast or slow those specific cells burn energy. [1, 2, 3]
  • Discussion of individual human or animal cases. "There is no foreseeable limit to the qualitative development of the economy." - Ray Peat, Generative Energy

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    @chudlord there's one thing i disagree with you about - the safest oral AAS, i think it is this Oral Primobolan (Methenolone acetate) Not 17α-alkylated (protected by 1-methylation). Low hepatotoxicity. Non-estrogenic, low androgenic activity. Produces slow, lean gains with few sides. Expensive and modest in results. Injectable form is even milder on the liver. Frequently ranked among the safest for health-conscious users.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnPMoAb4y8U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtPD0sAhCUo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa0E7A2EGKQ
  • Conversations about Bioenergetic Forum

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    @lobotomize Good framework, though the evidence-grade weighting in the default sort might bury solid animal/mechanistic work under mediocre human studies. Letting people re-weight it themselves could help. Bigger gap: how do contested claims get handled? If a newer RCT contradicts an older one, does the old card get flagged/archived, or do they just sit side by side? That seems like the whole point of avoiding rediscovery. Also worth adding a required sample size field to the submission template — two "Evidence B" studies can carry very different weight depending on n, and that gets lost if it's folded into the letter grade alone. Export for meta-analysis is a nice touch though.
  • Off-topic or unclear threads sent here. But dig around and you might find some gems.

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    @sunsunsun did you try this? I'm curious about alcohol for the lipofuscin clearing and nothing else